Buying Gold cheating? - Page 3 - Guild Wars Forums

makosi · May 19, 2006, 08:29 PM // 20:29

This reminds me off when I used to play The Sims and used the 'rosebud' and 'motherlode' cheat codes to get instant cash and build the biggest, best and most perfect houses. It ruined the game for me. Before the cheats I actually enjoyed it then it got boring and repetitve and I gave up. I can imagine that the story would be the same here.

Fyre Brand · May 19, 2006, 09:04 PM // 21:04

Not only is buying gold cheating, but it is 50% of the bot problem most of us love so much to bitch about. Bots are the way gold and items are farmed and sold. Bots take a portion of the drops that legitimate players could be getting thereby reducing what we could be making. People who buy from these cheaters support this problem. If people didn't buy from gold farmers there would be more drops for the rest of us and the "average" player would have a less difficult time gaining wealth. Bots not only reduce the loot available to all but this type of gold influx causes price inflation making rarer items more difficult for people to buy items at a reasonalbe price.

Sir Mad · May 19, 2006, 09:34 PM // 21:34

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From an ethical point of view it can be seen either way:
1) It encourages the exploitation of chinese kids who farm the gold or
2) It generates employment for some chinese kids.

Yeah I remember that article a guy posted about that too. And for me, this is hypocritical. Yes, chinese farmers are underpaid, exploited, etc... such as any worker (well, most of them) in China. A waitor in a restaurant earns 30 euros a month... So you can reproach a lot of things to gold sellers, but concerning their employees, they're just as bad as the company that made the clothe you're wearing. Not better, not worst.

Thanks to the person who quoted the EULA. I have never heard of people being banned for having bought gold, nor even ANET looking for them. I was wondering if such thing happened.

And yeah, buying gold is bad, shame on you, blah, blah... Actually, I dont really care.

nazc · May 19, 2006, 11:06 PM // 23:06

So the service agreement says that you can't sell but there is nothing about buying in there which means to me that selling is cheating and buying is not. It seems like more of a public relations clause than one with serious intent as a power seller for real money will simply buy another account if he/she gets banned on an existing one.

I started MMPORGs (yes I know GW isn't technically one but it's in the same realm so please work with me) in UO so I'm probably bias towards the 'anything is for sale if somebody is willing to pay for it'. UO also had significantly unfair advantages betwen part time and full time players so the only way a part time player could compete in some cases was to buy goods for real money.

That being said the thing that impresses me most about GW is how balanced it is for full and part time players. You get no advantage (other than PvP practice) that would impact another person's ability to play the game. So I don't think you need to buy GW gold with real money to play the game but I don't feel people that do impact my ability to play the game they way I want to do it.

Megengo · May 19, 2006, 11:12 PM // 23:12

With a game like this, the only things that are really cheating are those things that violoate the EULA. Buying gold is forbidden in the EULA and is therefore cheating.

unda dawg · May 20, 2006, 03:51 AM // 03:51

its stupid to "cheat" ur way through the game instead of playing it

Maria The Princess · May 20, 2006, 05:05 AM // 05:05

hmmm.....

i know so many who are Ebaying then say "i was farming and making 30k/hour every hour"

BS... its cheating, cuz making money is a part of the game "challenge"

Maria The Princess · May 20, 2006, 05:10 AM // 05:10

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Originally Posted by makosi

This reminds me off when I used to play The Sims and used the 'rosebud' and 'motherlode' cheat codes to get instant cash and build the biggest, best and most perfect houses. It ruined the game for me. Before the cheats I actually enjoyed it then it got boring and repetitve and I gave up. I can imagine that the story would be the same here.

i couldnt agree more!

when i was playing diablo 2, i had so much fun beating the game, duying, struggling! when i found all the weapon editors i had even more fun... in 5 minutes i got to end of game (mephisto right?). then there was just no more challenge in the game. thats when i dropped it and went to enjoy the wounders of the "outside my house" places...

but then GW came around!

Opeth11 · May 20, 2006, 05:20 AM // 05:20

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Originally Posted by Maria The Princess

i couldnt agree more!

when i was playing diablo 2, i had so much fun beating the game, duying, struggling! when i found all the weapon editors i had even more fun... in 5 minutes i got to end of game (baal right?). then there was just no more challenge in the game. thats when i dropped it and went to enjoy the wounders of the "outside my house" places...

but then GW came around!

Fixed. When I used the item editors, I had endless hours of fun dueling with people from www.ladderhall.com. Those guys were truely amazing.

Maria The Princess · May 20, 2006, 06:14 AM // 06:14

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Originally Posted by Opeth11

Fixed. When I used the item editors, I had endless hours of fun dueling with people from www.ladderhall.com. Those guys were truely amazing.

i did try to duel abit, but it was boring cuz evrybody had the same edits...so it looked like 2 chracters hitting eachother with no visible results..... maby i wasnt dueling withthe right people or somethin...

hehe GW if funner now anyways

Tsunami Rain · May 20, 2006, 07:15 AM // 07:15

closed. I think we've had enough online gold buying and ebay threads.

May 19, 2006, 08:29 PM // 20:29	#41
makosi Grotto Attendant Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: "Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff. Guild: Requirement Begins With R [notQ] Profession: Me/	This reminds me off when I used to play The Sims and used the 'rosebud' and 'motherlode' cheat codes to get instant cash and build the biggest, best and most perfect houses. It ruined the game for me. Before the cheats I actually enjoyed it then it got boring and repetitve and I gave up. I can imagine that the story would be the same here.

May 19, 2006, 09:04 PM // 21:04	#42
Fyre Brand Krytan Explorer Join Date: Sep 2005 Guild: Shadowlight Order [SoR]	Not only is buying gold cheating, but it is 50% of the bot problem most of us love so much to bitch about. Bots are the way gold and items are farmed and sold. Bots take a portion of the drops that legitimate players could be getting thereby reducing what we could be making. People who buy from these cheaters support this problem. If people didn't buy from gold farmers there would be more drops for the rest of us and the "average" player would have a less difficult time gaining wealth. Bots not only reduce the loot available to all but this type of gold influx causes price inflation making rarer items more difficult for people to buy items at a reasonalbe price.

May 19, 2006, 11:06 PM // 23:06	#44
nazc Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Oct 2005 Guild: Diamond in the Rough Profession: W/N	So the service agreement says that you can't sell but there is nothing about buying in there which means to me that selling is cheating and buying is not. It seems like more of a public relations clause than one with serious intent as a power seller for real money will simply buy another account if he/she gets banned on an existing one. I started MMPORGs (yes I know GW isn't technically one but it's in the same realm so please work with me) in UO so I'm probably bias towards the 'anything is for sale if somebody is willing to pay for it'. UO also had significantly unfair advantages betwen part time and full time players so the only way a part time player could compete in some cases was to buy goods for real money. That being said the thing that impresses me most about GW is how balanced it is for full and part time players. You get no advantage (other than PvP practice) that would impact another person's ability to play the game. So I don't think you need to buy GW gold with real money to play the game but I don't feel people that do impact my ability to play the game they way I want to do it.

May 19, 2006, 11:12 PM // 23:12	#45
Megengo Academy Page Join Date: Apr 2006 Guild: The Midnight Hand Profession: R/Mo	With a game like this, the only things that are really cheating are those things that violoate the EULA. Buying gold is forbidden in the EULA and is therefore cheating.

May 20, 2006, 03:51 AM // 03:51	#46
unda dawg Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Narnia Guild: Twilight Saraphim [TS] Profession: E/Me	its stupid to "cheat" ur way through the game instead of playing it

May 20, 2006, 05:05 AM // 05:05	#47
Maria The Princess Forge Runner Join Date: Mar 2006 Guild: Aequitas Deis	hmmm..... i know so many who are Ebaying then say "i was farming and making 30k/hour every hour" BS... its cheating, cuz making money is a part of the game "challenge"

May 20, 2006, 07:15 AM // 07:15	#51
Tsunami Rain mmmmmmmm pie. Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Honolulu, Hawaii Guild: Favorable Winds [Gust] Profession: Mo/	closed. I think we've had enough online gold buying and ebay threads.